I read again during the week that 'knowledge about God is insufficient compared with knowledge of God'. The writer was trying to show that a personal relationship with God can't be generated by knowing a lot of facts about God.
I have no quarrel with this per se. But it tends towards the view that ignorance is an excellent way to know God, and that knowledge about God gets in the way of knowing God. And I know more than one person who exults in their limited knowledge as a kind of badge of spiritual honour. It's a cute position because there is no argument against it. You can't even engage with it; if you do, you demonstrate knowledge and so are obviously spiritually inferior and not worth listening to.
I have no quarrel with this per se. But it tends towards the view that ignorance is an excellent way to know God, and that knowledge about God gets in the way of knowing God. And I know more than one person who exults in their limited knowledge as a kind of badge of spiritual honour. It's a cute position because there is no argument against it. You can't even engage with it; if you do, you demonstrate knowledge and so are obviously spiritually inferior and not worth listening to.
Having spent a chunk of time this week looking at how knowledge functions in John's Gospel, I am more convinced that ever that this view is neither helpful nor particularly Christian. In fact, I'm beginning to think its sheer laziness masquerading as spiritual righteousness. I have long thought that the self-righteousness produced by this position is an indication that it can't be a good position to hold, but saw it more as a means of self-protection by those who held it. I am beginning to discard this caveat, however. And I'm beginning to discard it because of how knowledge seems to work in John's Gospel.
Knowledge is of vital importance in John's Gospel. I think we see it most clearly in the way it works in people's lives throughout the Gospel. There are two key groups who give us a good indication of the importance of knowledge. There are those with some knowledge, and those whose knowledge grows before our eyes as the Gospel unfolds. In both cases, knowledge is of critical importance to how a person responds to Jesus. And so, knowledge is critical to a person's salvation. It doesn't get more significant than that.
In the first case, where there is some knowledge, that knowledge is used and filled out by Jesus to demonstrate who he is and generate belief. I think we see this most clearly in the woman at the well (ch 4) and in Martha's confession (ch 11). Both the woman at the well and Martha say "I know that..." and then include a piece of important, genuine knowledge about God. With the woman at the well, it is that the Messiah is coming and will reveal all; with Martha it is that God will give to Jesus all that he asks and that the dead will be raised on the last day. In both cases, Jesus then takes the important information they have provided and shows how he fits and exceeds the category. With the woman at the well, he so fulfills the category of Messiah (revealing all) that she runs off to bear witness to him to her township; with Martha, Jesus shows her that the knowledge she has of God as the God who will resurrect and who knows and honours Jesus, his Son is true to an extent that she hadn't imagined prior to this. So, she learns that Jesus is not merely an agent of the resurrection, but is himself both life and resurrection. He embodies it, showing that he is the true God of life with the power to resurrect: the God of the last day standing before her.
In both cases, knowledge which is genuine and valid is used to reveal Jesus to these women. He does not negate their knowledge. Their knowledge is not an impediment to belief but has established good and right categories in their thinking which Jesus enlightens. Knowledge is good for these women in their relationship with Jesus.
On the contrary, the prolonged argument with the Jewish leaders which peppers the entire book continually brings up the issue of their knowledge (and lack of it). So, they don't know where Jesus is from (9:29) and this impedes their ability to listen to him, let alone believe what he is saying. Or they know that salvation is found in the Scriptures but don't know that Jesus fulfills the Scriptures and so don't believe. Their lack of knowledge (and incorrect knowledge in other places) stumbles them to the extent that they reject Jesus completely and teach others to do likewise. Their lack of knowledge cuts them off from believing in Jesus.
The other group who show us the importance of knowledge are the disciples. Their growth in knowledge is important in their relationship with Jesus. From their earliest confessions in chapter 1, through to their post-resurrection realisations (for example: 2: 21-22), their knowledge of who Jesus is continues to grow. The critical moments seem to be in Simon Peter's confession (6:68-69), where Peter confesses not only that Jesus is the Holy One of God but that he alone has words of eternal life. The second moment seems to be the disciples' realisation in the Farewell Discourse (16:30), where they state that they now know that Jesus has come from God. This is particularly significant because in the following chapter Jesus uses this confession as proof of their genuine belief in his prayer (17:8). This is not their position at the beginning of the Gospel, but one which they have reached on the basis of hearing and watching Jesus. They believe because they know.
Far from knowledge stunting their growth as followers of Jesus, it is on the basis of knowledge that the disciples come to a fuller, deeper trust of Jesus and a belief that is not even toppled by the crucifixion event. They believe in Jesus, because they have remained with him (as he invited them to do in chapter 1), and so have seen for themselves who he is and what he has done. Certainly, part of this knowledge is relational kind of knowledge, but that is not the knowledge they speak of when writing their Gospels. In the Gospels they report what happened: what Jesus did, what he said, how he responded to things and so forth. This is the kind of knowledge that they provide us with in order for us to believe, which is their goal in writing their Gospels. The relational knowledge is no doubt there and no doubt significant, but the basis for the belief they call us to is found in the actions and words of Jesus: 'factual' knowledge.
Far from knowledge stunting their growth as followers of Jesus, it is on the basis of knowledge that the disciples come to a fuller, deeper trust of Jesus and a belief that is not even toppled by the crucifixion event. They believe in Jesus, because they have remained with him (as he invited them to do in chapter 1), and so have seen for themselves who he is and what he has done. Certainly, part of this knowledge is relational kind of knowledge, but that is not the knowledge they speak of when writing their Gospels. In the Gospels they report what happened: what Jesus did, what he said, how he responded to things and so forth. This is the kind of knowledge that they provide us with in order for us to believe, which is their goal in writing their Gospels. The relational knowledge is no doubt there and no doubt significant, but the basis for the belief they call us to is found in the actions and words of Jesus: 'factual' knowledge.
In John's Gospel, Jesus is establishing them as witnesses, not only to those in their generation, but even to us today. And they would be useless witnesses if their belief was based on a sentimental attachment to Jesus which had no solid basis. We rely on their testimony: on what they saw and handled and touched. Our knowledge is dependent on their knowledge. If all they had to report was a collection of vague notions or feelings which could not be known, their witness would be severely limited. Instead, they tell us what they know to be true: what happened, what was said, what is meant by what was said and the reactions of others (good and bad).
It is on the basis of this knowledge that we believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God, sent by God to redeem the world. We need a rock-solid knowledge base to believe something as grand as that. We need knowledge that is based in historical activity and speech, that is based on reliable and trustworthy sources. Only this is substantial enough to stand the test of life, with all its difficulties and with all its transient emotions. Believing because we know takes the limelight away from us (our knowledge is outside ourselves after all), and demonstrates that we depend on God and his word to know him through his Son. There is no room for the swollen pride of the ignoramus here.
It is on the basis of this knowledge that we believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God, sent by God to redeem the world. We need a rock-solid knowledge base to believe something as grand as that. We need knowledge that is based in historical activity and speech, that is based on reliable and trustworthy sources. Only this is substantial enough to stand the test of life, with all its difficulties and with all its transient emotions. Believing because we know takes the limelight away from us (our knowledge is outside ourselves after all), and demonstrates that we depend on God and his word to know him through his Son. There is no room for the swollen pride of the ignoramus here.
5 comments:
Hi Jen,
Really enjoying your posts! I didn't respond to the last two as I couldn't frame coherent enough comments from the thoughts that it raised for me. I was struck by the truth of what you saw in 1 Kings, but was distracted by the place of deception in Genesis 12-50! Your thoughts gave me a little more 'room-to-move' in Genesis, but I am not exactly sure where I should be moving! Anyway, thought I would let you know...
I enjoyed the rigour of this post - the non-nonsense approach to ignorance! My thoughts again wandered, (you both have that effect on me) to Revelation and the contrast between the church that 'knew', and the church that really didn't! Jesus had stuff to say to both of them - and as someone who accumulates knowledge for a living - I need to hear both of the things he says there, just as I need to hear what he says in John's Gospel! Thanks again for your posts - exile is a good place for you both as it has increased the value of the interent immeasurably in my eyes!!
Yes, agreed. Really appreciating all the Baddeley blogs. Ignorance has its own strange smugness to it, doesn't it (referring to the contents of this current blog entry, I hope you understand!)
I linked to what you said back on my blog.
Hey Cynergy,
Thanks for your kind words. I'm really glad this is provocative. I actually wasn't sure that anyone really read this, so I'm a bit surprised. Now I will have to try and have some profound thoughts!
Loved your comment on the churches in Revelation and the knowing/not knowing issue - this has pricked my curiosity and I will have to go and investigate further.
Agree about the deception issue in Genesis. What is going on there? It's interesting that the first book of the Bible should spend SO much time on a theme that I wouldn't have thought was too important. But maybe that just shows how much deception is caught up in the heart of humanity! (Not that it is then absent in the rest of the Bible, just startlingly present at the beginning).
I'm glad you are still thinking about Revelation. I always associate you with the letters to the churches and that email Bible study group thingy you ran years and years ago. It was great fun.
We'll continue in exile - just for you. (So sacrificial of us, hey...) Apparently my brain will completely stop working in a few weeks, so you'll have to be content with Mark's 27-part posts. ;-) JMB
Still thinking about Revelation? Everything relates to there, and I can't help but wander there! Even the deception angle wanders in with the beasts from the earth and the sea, with a rather starring role to boot! A biblical theology of deception, now that would be a wonderful read - if wonderfully depressing...
I must admit to surprise that your brain is working as cogently as it seems to be...Michelle's, and in my experience most expectant mothers', seem to suffer from exponential decay in their capacity to articulate rational thoughts from about 6 months forward - so your posts are a delight in consquence. I do hope you unshackle some thoughts post-tiny - even slightly less rational thoughts from Jen are more rational than what us mere mortals can produce!
These comments are excellent I should say. I read your as a theologian and preacher, you have done your readings well and thoughts very well. I will be happy if you can struggle a bit more on how possessing knowledge about God will not make one superior or inferior to the other? There is also a funny factor about the chosen ones such as Abraham or Moses or others to whom more knowledge about God is revealed. Somehow they did not claim to be superior but today's spiritually demonstrative people claim to be chosen and to know more about God and thus claim to be a bit superior to other beings. I do struggle like you that Knowing God does not make one to claim such superior status over others.
wishes
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